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Daniel Sepczuk (blue) vs Niall Cardin (red)  
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Daniel Sepczuk (Blue) vs Niall Cardin (Red)  
 
Notes about some moves, I start making notes in response to move 25
 
Notes about some moves, I start making notes in response to move 25
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All blue moves or pieces are in (), e.g. blues first move was at (F1). Nothing else is in ().
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All blue moves or pieces are in (), e.g. Blue's first move was at (F1). Nothing else is in ().
  
 
== Game information ==
 
== Game information ==
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* Date: December 2011
 
* Size: 13x13
 
* Size: 13x13
 
* Red: [[user:Niall | Niall]]
 
* Red: [[user:Niall | Niall]]
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* Blue: [[Daniel Sepczuk]
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* Blue: Daniel Sepczuk
 
* Result: 0-1 (Blue won)
 
* Result: 0-1 (Blue won)
 
* Comments: Niall
 
* Comments: Niall
 
* Location: [[Little Golem]], game [http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/game/game.jsp?gid=1401976] in championship 28.1.1
 
* Location: [[Little Golem]], game [http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/game/game.jsp?gid=1401976] in championship 28.1.1
  
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== Moves ==
  
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Moves 1 to 8 (In fact red played A6 which was swapped to F1, so it's labeled as 9 on littlegolem)
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You can see the diagram for each move by following along at [https://hexworld.org/board/#13c1,a6:si5i10k10k12l11l12j10h12j12j7c4d3d10d4f5j2b3c5j3k2k3l2g4f8g6f6i7h9i8j9h10i9e7e6f7d9e9e8l8l7k8j8g8f9:rb this HexWorld link].
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Moves 1 to 8 (In fact Red played A6 which was swapped to F1, so it's labeled as 2 on littlegolem)
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  B1f1 R2i5 B3i10 R4k10 B5k12 R6l11 B7l12 R8j10 </hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  B1f1 R2i5 B3i10 R4k10 B5k12 R6l11 B7l12 R8j10 </hex>
  
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<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 B1d4 R2f5 B3j2 R4b3 B5c5 R6j3 B7k2</hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 B1d4 R2f5 B3j2 R4b3 B5c5 R6j3 B7k2</hex>
  
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This is the position I (red) am considering when these notes start, move 25:
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This is the position I (Red) am considering when these notes start, move 25:
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 R1k3 B2l2 R3g4 B4f8</hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 R1k3 B2l2 R3g4 B4f8</hex>
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<b>Move 26:</b> Daniel thought that G8 was the way to go, though he says he didn't look for long. I didn't like it after G6 from blue.
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<b>Move 26:</b> Daniel thought that G8 was the way to go, though he says he didn't look for long. I didn't like it after G6 from Blue.
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- G6  
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* G6  
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  - (E9) G8 (F10) G10 (G9) I8 (I6) H7 - might work for red?
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** (E9) G8 (F10) G10 (G9) I8 (I6) H7 - might work for Red?
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  - (E7) G8 (F10)  
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** (E7) G8 (F10)  
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  - (F6) E5?
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** (F6) E5?
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  - (H6) E8 (F6) E5 (E6) F7 (G5) H5 - assert that H5 is connected to the top with C3 and E5  
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** (H6) E8 (F6) E5 (E6) F7 (G5) H5 - assert that H5 is connected to the top with C3 and E5  
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- G8  
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* G8  
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  - (G6)  
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** (G6)  
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    - G7 (H7) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10) - looks good for blue
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*** G7 (F7) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (F9) G9 (F11) - looks good for Blue
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    - E8 (E7) F7 (F6) - blue wins
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*** E8 (E7) F7 (F6) - Blue wins
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    - H7 (H3) E5 (H4) E8 (E7) - blue wins
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*** H7 (H3) E5 (H4) E8 (E7) - Blue wins
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  - (H6)  
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** (H6)  
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    - E8 (F6) H5
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*** E8 (F6) H5
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  - (G7) H7 - looks like a win for red
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** (G7) H7 - looks like a win for Red
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- E8 (F6) G6 (F7) G8 (F10)  
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* E8 (F6) G6 (F7) G8 (F10)  
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  - I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10)
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** I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10)
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  - E7 (G6) I3 (D9) - looks good for blue
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** E7 (G6) I3 (D9) - looks good for Blue
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- G7  
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* G7  
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  - (F10)  
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** (F10)  
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    - G8 (E12) F9 (E10) E9 (C12) - looks good for blue
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*** G8 (E12) F9 (E10) E9 (C12) - looks good for Blue
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    - E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10) - looks good for blue
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*** E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10) - looks good for Blue
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  - (G8) E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6)  
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** (G8) E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6)  
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  - (F7) G8 (G6) I3 (H6) I6 (
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** (F7) G8 (G6) I3 (H6) I6 (
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  - (E9) G9 <(F10) G10 (F12) H11> (G8) I7 (H8) I8
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** (E9) G9 <(F10) G10 (F12) H11> (G8) I7 (H8) I8
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  - (E10) E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 - red connects
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** (E10) E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 - Red connects
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- H7  
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* H7  
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  - (E10) H8  
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** (E10) H8  
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    - (H9) - looks like blue wins
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*** (H9) - looks like Blue wins
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    - (I9) G10 - red wins
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*** (I9) G10 - Red wins
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  - (H8) G8 (F9) G9 (F11) - seems like red can't get through
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** (H8) G8 (F9) G9 (F11) - seems like Red can't get through
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- I7 (H9) - good for blue
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* I7 (H9) - good for Blue
  
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Variations if I play G8 that I noted in the game. I was worried about this G6 response, threatening H3:
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<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8 R1g8 B2g6 </hex>
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Red variation 1a
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<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8 Rg8 Bg6 R1g7 B2f7 R3i3 B4h6 R5i6 B6h7 </hex>
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Red variation 1b
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<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8 Rg8 Bg6 Rg7 Bf7 Ri3 Bh6 Ri6 Bh7 R1i7 B2h9 R3h8 B4f9 R5g9 B6f11</hex>
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Red Variation 2
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<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8 Rg8 Bg6 R1e8 B2e7 R3f7 B4f6</hex>
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The move I actually played and Blue's response:
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  R1g6 B2f6</hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  R1g6 B2f6</hex>
 
<b>Move 28:</b>
 
<b>Move 28:</b>
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- I7
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* I7
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  - (H9) I8 (I9) K8 (J8) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) K5 (J6) L6 - red wins
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** (H9) I8 (I9) K8 (J8) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) K5 (J6) L6 - Red wins
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  - (G9) H9 (G11) F9  
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** (G9) H9 (G11) F9  
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    - (G8) G10 (F11) F10 (C12) D12 - red wins
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*** (G8) G10 (F11) F10 (C12) D12 - Red wins
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    - (F10) G8 (C12) F11 - red wins
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*** (F10) G8 (C12) F11 - Red wins
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  - (G5) I3 (H6) J6
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** (G5) I3 (H6) J6
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- G8  
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* G8  
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  - (G5) I3 (H6)
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** (G5) I3 (H6)
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    - G7 (H5) - same old ladder towards the bottom that I seem to lose after (C12)
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*** G7 (H5) - same old ladder towards the bottom that I seem to lose after (C12)
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    - H5 (G7) - same old la... " "
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*** H5 (G7) - same old la... " "
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  - (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12) F7  
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** (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12) F7  
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    - (E11) G10  
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*** (E11) G10  
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    - (G5) I3 (H6)
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*** (G5) I3 (H6)
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- F7
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* F7
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  - (G5) I3  
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** (G5) I3  
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    - (H6)  
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*** (H6)  
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      - H5 (E8) G8 (G7) - think blue wins, as I didn't get C10
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**** H5 (E8) G8 (G7) - think Blue wins, as I didn't get C10
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      - E7 (D9) - looks like blue wins
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**** E7 (D9) - looks like Blue wins
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  - (E8)  
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** (E8)  
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    - G8 (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12)  
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*** G8 (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12)  
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    - E7 (H7) - blue wins
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*** E7 (H7) - Blue wins
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- G8 (G5) H5 (H3) - blue wins. E5 (D4) exchange doesn't help
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* G8 (G5) H5 (H3) - Blue wins. E5 (D4) exchange doesn't help
  
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 R1i7 B2h9 R3i8 B4j9 R5h10 B6i9 </hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 R1i7 B2h9 R3i8 B4j9 R5h10 B6i9 </hex>
 
<b>Move 34:</b>
 
<b>Move 34:</b>
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- E7  
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* E7  
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  - (E6) F7 (G5) I3 (D9) E9 (E8) G8 - red wins
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** (E6) F7 (G5) I3 (D9) E9 (E8) G8 - Red wins
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  - (D9) E9 (E8) G8 - red wins
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** (D9) E9 (E8) G8 - Red wins
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- G8 (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12) E9 (E11) - blue wins
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* G8 (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12) E9 (E11) - Blue wins
  
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 Ri7 Bh9 Ri8 Bj9 Rh10 Bi9  R1e7 B2e6 R3f7 B4d9 R5e9 B6e8</hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 Ri7 Bh9 Ri8 Bj9 Rh10 Bi9  R1e7 B2e6 R3f7 B4d9 R5e9 B6e8</hex>
 
<b>Move 40:</b>
 
<b>Move 40:</b>
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- L8  
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* L8  
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  - (K6) J8 (K8) L7 (K7) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) J6 (J5) L4 (K5) M4 - red wins
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** (K6) J8 (K8) L7 (K7) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) J6 (J5) L4 (K5) M4 - Red wins
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  - (K7) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) J6 (J5) L4 (K5) L5 (K6) M6 - red wins.
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** (K7) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) J6 (J5) L4 (K5) L5 (K6) M6 - Red wins.
  
  
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Niall: Here is a summary at <b> move 42 </b>, the game has clearly been won by blue.  
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Niall: Here is a summary at <b> move 42 </b>, the game has clearly been won by Blue.  
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 Ri7 Bh9 Ri8 Bj9 Rh10 Bi9  Re7 Be6 Rf7 Bd9 Re9 Be8  R1l8 B2l7</hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 Ri7 Bh9 Ri8 Bj9 Rh10 Bi9  Re7 Be6 Rf7 Bd9 Re9 Be8  R1l8 B2l7</hex>
 
The key moves are G8 and G9. However:
 
The key moves are G8 and G9. However:
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- G9 (H7) H8 (I6) - blue connects
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* G9 (H7) H8 (I6) - Blue connects
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- G8 (F9) G9 (F11) F10 (E11) E10 (C12) - blue connects
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* G8 (F9) G9 (F11) F10 (E11) E10 (C12) - Blue connects
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Red cannot threaten the blue connections to the right with C10 or similar, (C5) stones deal with everything.
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Red cannot threaten the Blue connections to the right with C10 or similar, (C5) stones deal with everything.
 
B10 (C8) exchange doesn't block (C12).
 
B10 (C8) exchange doesn't block (C12).
  
 
Red can deal with (H3) and (G5) related complications. I3 is a key move for most of these variations.  
 
Red can deal with (H3) and (G5) related complications. I3 is a key move for most of these variations.  
 
Also  
 
Also  
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- (G3) H3 (I1) F2 and red connects.
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* (G3) H3 (I1) F2 and Red connects.
  
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The game then happens to continue like this, so that red can ask blue where he went wrong :)
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The game then happens to continue like this, so that Red can ask Blue where he went wrong :)
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 Ri7 Bh9 Ri8 Bj9 Rh10 Bi9  Re7 Be6 Rf7 Bd9 Re9 Be8  Rl8 Bl7 R1k8 B2j8 R3g8 B4f9</hex>
 
<hex>R13 C13 Q1  Bf1 Ri5 Bi10 Rk10 Bk12 Rl11 Bl12 Rj10 Bh12 Rj12 Bj7 Rc4 Bd3 Rd10 Bd4 Rf5 Bj2 Rb3 Bc5 Rj3 Bk2 Rk3 Bl2 Rg4 Bf8  Rg6 Bf6 Ri7 Bh9 Ri8 Bj9 Rh10 Bi9  Re7 Be6 Rf7 Bd9 Re9 Be8  Rl8 Bl7 R1k8 B2j8 R3g8 B4f9</hex>
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[[Category:Game record]]

Latest revision as of 02:24, 11 May 2023

Daniel Sepczuk (Blue) vs Niall Cardin (Red) Notes about some moves, I start making notes in response to move 25 All blue moves or pieces are in (), e.g. Blue's first move was at (F1). Nothing else is in ().

Game information

  • Date: December 2011
  • Size: 13x13
  • Red: Niall
  • Blue: Daniel Sepczuk
  • Result: 0-1 (Blue won)
  • Comments: Niall
  • Location: Little Golem, game [1] in championship 28.1.1

Moves

You can see the diagram for each move by following along at this HexWorld link.

Moves 1 to 8 (In fact Red played A6 which was swapped to F1, so it's labeled as 2 on littlegolem)

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Moves 9 to 14

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Moves 15 to 21

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This is the position I (Red) am considering when these notes start, move 25:

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Move 26: Daniel thought that G8 was the way to go, though he says he didn't look for long. I didn't like it after G6 from Blue.

  • G6
    • (E9) G8 (F10) G10 (G9) I8 (I6) H7 - might work for Red?
    • (E7) G8 (F10)
    • (F6) E5?
    • (H6) E8 (F6) E5 (E6) F7 (G5) H5 - assert that H5 is connected to the top with C3 and E5
  • G8
    • (G6)
      • G7 (F7) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (F9) G9 (F11) - looks good for Blue
      • E8 (E7) F7 (F6) - Blue wins
      • H7 (H3) E5 (H4) E8 (E7) - Blue wins
    • (H6)
      • E8 (F6) H5
    • (G7) H7 - looks like a win for Red
  • E8 (F6) G6 (F7) G8 (F10)
    • I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10)
    • E7 (G6) I3 (D9) - looks good for Blue
  • G7
    • (F10)
      • G8 (E12) F9 (E10) E9 (C12) - looks good for Blue
      • E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 (H9) H8 (G8) G9 (G10) - looks good for Blue
    • (G8) E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6)
    • (F7) G8 (G6) I3 (H6) I6 (
    • (E9) G9 <(F10) G10 (F12) H11> (G8) I7 (H8) I8
    • (E10) E8 (F6) F7 (H5) I3 (H6) I6 (H7) I7 - Red connects
  • H7
    • (E10) H8
      • (H9) - looks like Blue wins
      • (I9) G10 - Red wins
    • (H8) G8 (F9) G9 (F11) - seems like Red can't get through
  • I7 (H9) - good for Blue

Variations if I play G8 that I noted in the game. I was worried about this G6 response, threatening H3:

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Red variation 1a

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Red variation 1b

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Red Variation 2

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The move I actually played and Blue's response:

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Move 28:

  • I7
    • (H9) I8 (I9) K8 (J8) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) K5 (J6) L6 - Red wins
    • (G9) H9 (G11) F9
      • (G8) G10 (F11) F10 (C12) D12 - Red wins
      • (F10) G8 (C12) F11 - Red wins
    • (G5) I3 (H6) J6
  • G8
    • (G5) I3 (H6)
      • G7 (H5) - same old ladder towards the bottom that I seem to lose after (C12)
      • H5 (G7) - same old la... " "
    • (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12) F7
      • (E11) G10
      • (G5) I3 (H6)
  • F7
    • (G5) I3
      • (H6)
        • H5 (E8) G8 (G7) - think Blue wins, as I didn't get C10
        • E7 (D9) - looks like Blue wins
    • (E8)
      • G8 (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12)
      • E7 (H7) - Blue wins
  • G8 (G5) H5 (H3) - Blue wins. E5 (D4) exchange doesn't help
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Move 34:

  • E7
    • (E6) F7 (G5) I3 (D9) E9 (E8) G8 - Red wins
    • (D9) E9 (E8) G8 - Red wins
  • G8 (F10) F9 (C12) C10 (B12) E9 (E11) - Blue wins
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Move 40:

  • L8
    • (K6) J8 (K8) L7 (K7) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) J6 (J5) L4 (K5) M4 - Red wins
    • (K7) G9 (H7) H8 (I6) J6 (J5) L4 (K5) L5 (K6) M6 - Red wins.


Niall: Here is a summary at move 42 , the game has clearly been won by Blue.

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The key moves are G8 and G9. However:

  • G9 (H7) H8 (I6) - Blue connects
  • G8 (F9) G9 (F11) F10 (E11) E10 (C12) - Blue connects

Red cannot threaten the Blue connections to the right with C10 or similar, (C5) stones deal with everything. B10 (C8) exchange doesn't block (C12).

Red can deal with (H3) and (G5) related complications. I3 is a key move for most of these variations. Also

  • (G3) H3 (I1) F2 and Red connects.

The game then happens to continue like this, so that Red can ask Blue where he went wrong :)

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